RSG3 things
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marchionessofmustacheThis is mostly just my own musings/organizing my thoughts but...
I don't think I'll ever do eight whole playthroughs of RSG3 because the game just isn't different enough between all the characters. But I'd still probably end up doing half of them?
And there are 23 recruitable characters in the game. Though two of them are kinda... iffy. One only is really playable in one scenario and has some special conditions, and the other can only be recruited at the very end of the game, past a point of no return, so there's... no real point in recruiting them, since you won't really get to raise them or anything (which is sad because he'd be the final member of my fuzzyface harem team lol)
But I'd like to do themed teams with each playthrough, and I'm trying to come up with some different themes based on the available characters. You get your protag plus five additional characters for the party, though one character doesn't battle, so if you're not planning on using Commander Mode, you could really only worry about four additional characters.
The 'themes' that I definitely want to do are:
- Harem Party: As in Tiberius, Wod, Trucks, and Herman. The problem is I don't know what to do for a 5th. Originally I wanted to theme this as all fuzzy-faced characters, so I'd put Yan Fan in since he's the only other character with facial hair. But he's also the only-available-for-the-last-area character, so that's kinda stupid. Boston and Leonid are characters I have a crush on but I plan to use them in other theme already. So I don't know what to do about the 5th. I also am not sure who I'd want to use as the protag for this. I want it to be someone to kind of ship everyone with LOL so I kind of like the idea of Monica or Mikhail; Monica means I can't use Leonid, though, and Monica or Thomas seem good for the magic-only party, so maybe I'd go with Mikhail.
- Non-human Party: Boston, Snowman, Fairy, Elephant, and Leonid. Boston is a lobster; Leonid is a vampire. Vampires are kinda humany but not exactly, plus he has a unique gameplay mechanism so I think that qualifies him enough to be on this team. I don't know who would be a good protag for this, either. I've thought of Sara (since she reminds me a little of Claudia from RSG1 for some reason?), or maybe Katalina? I don't feel like anyone REALLY makes sense for this, though, lol.
- Mage Party: This can be literally anyone, but generally the characters who seem more magic-inclined would be better: Bai Meinyan, Fullbright, Muse, Tiberius, and Undine seem the most 'magey' of everyone, but you could use anyone really. Thomas or Monica would be the best protags as they're the most magic-inclined, I feel. I think Thomas even starts with some magic available? Anyway, I may even do a 'challenge run' type of thing where I only use jutsu and no weapons, or limit to only martial arts or something.
- Girls Party: Only female characters. Try to use the ones not from mage party, and avoid recruiting the other protags. Bai Meinyan, Muse, Nora, Tatyana, Undine, Zhi Lin. Of course, we'd still need to have some overlap with the mage party... But Nora and Zhi Lin would be a must. The protag I feel is best with Ellen or Katalina. Actually, if I did Katalina, I could recruit Ellen to add some variety.
The characters not utilized in any of those would be Black, Paul, Minstrel, Robin, Sharl, and Boy. That's only 6, and Boy is one of the iffy ones. So maybe the other five -- Black, Paul, Minstrel, Robin, Sharl... they could be a theme of annoying young guys. The protag would be Julian XD
Though I'd like to play with Harid once I think, so maybe a theme of money-seeking characters? Black and Paul would fit in there, being a pirate and a bandit. Minstrel I guess performs for money? But his main motivation seems artistry. Um, honestly no one else really fits this. Maybe Wod since he's kind of a mercenary lol. Undine and Leonid maybe make sense here, Leonid has a castle with lots of treasures, Undine fights over a treasure ... XD
But uh, thinking of the protags, I'd like to definitely do at least Mikhail, Harid, Sara, Monica, and Katalina. Ellen and Thomas share the same story with Sara pretty much, and Julian's is shared with Monica. But the five I listed have unique story elements, I think. Even though most of the game is still identical, it's just a little different in the intro, lol...
I could do the themes like this:
Mikhail - Harem (Tiberius, Trucks, Wod, Herman, Leonid)
Katalina - Girls (Nora, Zhi Lin, Tatyana, Ellen, Muse)
Monica - Mages (Tiberius, Thomas, Muse, Undine, Bai Meinyan)
Sara - Non-humans (Snowman, Fairy, Elephant, Boston, Boy)
Harid - Other (Black, Paul, Minstrel, Fullbright, Sharl)
Unused - Robin, Julian
Harid seems like he'd just let anyone tag along as long as they didn't get in his way, so maybe I could just throw everyone I didn't use into that run XD
Then maybe if I ever feel like playing again I could play another Sara and throw Boy, Julian, and Thomas in there, and pick up Yan Fan at the end just for the heck of it, so I'd have used everyone XD
Another idea is to use Boy with Sara and have it be Boy and Sara with a bunch of non-humans. That's kind of interesting, too. I'd kinda consider Boy and Sara to be like a dual-protag sort of thing XD Actually, I really like that idea. I'm going to move Leonid off that list and put Boy there. Then everyone has a generic name in that party except Boston hahaha.
Then other than the protags Julian and Thomas, and of course Yan Fan, I'd have used every character.
Also, here's some notes for myself on characters' growth rates in magic for the sake of the mage run:
Seiryu/Suzaku/Byakko/Genbu/Sun/Moon
Monica - 0/0/0/0/0/4
Tiberius - 1/1/1/1/2/0
Muse - 2/1/2/1/0/4
Undine - 0/0/0/5/0/2
Bai Meinyan - 3/1/1/1/0/0
Thomas - 0/0/1/1/3/0
OK, I said Fullbright but thinking about it now, I don't know why I feel like he's magey? He's not particularly magey compared to anyone else. Maybe I should go with Thomas? Since I'm not going to use him for his own run. Then I could put Fullbright with Harid (and Fullbright is definitely a money-based character because he's a businessman lol)
OK, I added Fullbright to Harid's team, and that's a pretty decent 'money-seekers' team, really. Pirate, Bandit, Performer, Businessman, and ... a poor kid from the slums LOL.
But now Robin is not being used anywhere...
I could swap him into the 'mage' party and have Thomas as the lead, but then I wouldn't have a playthrough with Monica... Though I could try to make the Monica playthrough the 'perfect' game... XD;;;;; I don't really feel like Robin fits in a mage party anyway, though. I think Fullbright fits better than Robin XD
Anyway, to make sure all the magic schools are covered:
Monica - Suzaku
Tiberius - Genbu
Muse - Byakko
Undine - Genbu
Bai Meinyan - Seiryu
Thomas - Suzaku?
Thomas has 0 making for Suzaku, but I'd like to have a "replacement" for Monica if she's the commander, so all four schools are still used even if she's not on the field. His makings in the four elemental schools are not that amazing anyway (Genbu and Byakko are just 1 lol), so he'll mainly be useful for his high Sun making, as he and Tiberius are the only ones that even have non-0 Sun Making...
Then for the light schools:
Sun - Tiberius, Thomas, Bai Meinyan
Moon - Monica, Undine, Muse
Even amount of each :P Bai is the only one who isn't really proficient in either sun or moon, so she'll probably just stick to a healing jutsu for emergency only or something.
Well, not that makings are really all that important in this game, but XD
Here's the Magic levels of each of the mage party members:
Monica - 16 *
Thomas - 20
Tiberius - 23
Muse - 19
Undine - 24
Bai Meinyan - 23
(Fullbright) - 19
* This is assuming giving her the star sign of the scholar and no initial weapon proficiency (which starts her with suzaku jutsu, too).
The fastest character will likely be Thomas at 18. Monica's speed with scholar/none is only 16.
Builds for Monica: Since the most important stat will be Magic, but then secondly Speed and Spirit are both important, there are a few different ways to "build" Monica if she's chosen as the initial character. Thomas as the protag can get insane magic level (I think up to 27), but Monica's base magic is very low (9) so even trying to max it out, you only end up with 18, which will still be the lowest in the party. The main reason Monica makes a great starting mage character, though, is that she is the only character who can actually get a jutsu crown reasonably, by choosing 'none' as her weapon proficiency.
To get a jutsu crown, your jutsu points must be more than 10x your waza points plus 45. The lowest WP Thomas can start with is 11, so he'd have to get JP of 155 without ever gaining WP throughout the game. I don't even think it's possible to get JP this high???
Monica is special in that she doesn't start with any base WP, so she simply has to get to 45JP to get a crown. Other weapon proficiencies are technically possible, since she'd start with 3WP, but then she'd have to get to 75JP before she ever got the crown.
Since Monica will be one of the weaker mages anyway, it might be better to focus on her other abilities. She has naturally very high Charm, and you can give her the highest charm in the game by going Royalty/None (or Royalty/Foil), which will give her 25 Charm.
Since she'll be using Moon jutsu, she will have access to the charm glare thingy, which is the best seduction ability in the game. So focusing on Charm may be a good idea.
Other stats to pay attention to are Speed, Endurance, and Spirit. If we can make Monica the fastest character in the party, we'll have more enemies we can beat in speed using a fixed-turn-order formation. The best we can get her speed is with Hunter/Foil, which will leave it at 22, two points above Thomas, and generally on the higher end of base stats.
Endurance is important for absorbing physical damage, and in fights where having a tank in front helps, it might be good to have a high-endurance character. Thomas has 19 which is not bad. We can get Monica's to 23 with Fighter/Martial.
Spirit will help avoid status effects, and there isn't a reason to focus on one character having a higher value than the rest of the party, but it's good to pay attention to, because you don't want it to be too low. Only Seiryu school has jutsu that can inflict status effect as far as I know? (Nap)
Anyway, looking at some possible combinations, here are what her starting stats would be. They'll be listed in the order Speed/Endurance/Magic/Spirit/Charm
Scholar+None - 16/13/18/19/24
Royalty+None - 14/15/16/19/25
Hunter+None - 18/14/17/17/24
Fighter+None - 15/17/15/19/23
Hunter+Foil - 22/15/15/15/24
Fighter+Martial - 18/23/10/17/20
The Fighter+Martial set does have nice Endurance, but Magic is dropped to low (10 lol) for an all-mage game.
Scholar+None gives the best Magic/Spirit/Charm set. The +1 in Charm from Royalty+None doesn't really seem worth the drop of 2 in Magic, though a +2 in Endurance isn't so bad.
Hunter+None seems pretty balanced with decent speed, but if the speed doesn't outrank Thomas, it's not particularly useful, so it's kind of a misleading balance. In the end, it's a 'just ok' all around build it seems.
Fighter+None seems sort of lackluster all around. You can get the same Spirit from other builds, but without all the sacrifices everywhere else. 17 Endurance really isn't all that amazing.
Hunter+Foil is intriguing -- you get 22 speed, so she'd be the fastest character, and Charm still stays very high at 24. Going fast and charming opponents seems great. 15 is mediocre for Magic, but if she focuses on support jutsu, it won't matter as much, and Suzaku+Moon does have quite a bit of support available. Being able to deliver fast support and the ability to charm quickly sounds nice.
The biggest problem is Hunter+Foil makes getting the jutsu crown a far late-game thing... And we'd have to be very careful never go gain a single WP. A crown is nice but big speed might be worth getting it later rather than sooner.
Suzaku jutsu are almost completely support, and we'll have other characters on Moon jutsu who are more offensive (including Undine, who has the highest Magic level in the party...), so having the higher speed and charm seems to be more useful than the higher magic level.
And just for fun, here's who has the best making for each category (not including HP since a lot of people share top):
Sword - Julian, Harid, Boy, Wod (3)
Axe/Club - Ellen, Nora (3)
Spear/Foil - Trucks, Fairy (4)
Bow - Zhi Lin (4)
Martial Arts - Elephant (4)
Seiryu - Harid, Boy, Bai Meinyan (3)
Suzaku - Sara (3)
Byakko - Sara, Muse, Yan Fan, Nora (2)
Genbu - Undine (5)
Sun - Mikhail (4)
Moon - Monica, Muse (3)
Interesting that the only making of 5 is Undine's Genbu rate. Which is good because she has a making of 0 in everything else (well, a 2 in Moon). Byakko doesn't really have anyone particularly good at it, with four people tied at just 2.
Nora is the only character that has the highest making in more than one category that can be held at the same time (Sara tops Suzaku and Byakko both, but you can't have jutsu from both schools at the same time.)
The highest in the static stats, with some notable mentions (basically anyone over 21):
Strength - Boy, Nora (23) - Wod (22)
Skill - Zhi Lin, Nora (24) - Fairy (22)
Speed - Fairy (25) - Katalina (23), Trucks (22)
Endurance - Elephant (26) - Snowman (24), Wod (23)
Magic - Leonid (25) - Undine (24), Tiberius, Yan Fan, Bai Meinyan (23)
Spirit - Herman, Black (24) - Snowman (23), Julian (22)
Charm - Leonid (27) - Muse (25), Monica (24), Minstrel (22)
The most overall stat points is Leonid with 135. Sharl with Silver Hand comes in second at 130. Harid, Monica, and Black are tied for third at 124.
I'm mildly offended that Monica has less Charm than Muse. Leonid having highest charm is amazing, though, and makes it even more fun for him to be in the harem party.
Notably, Trucks has a charm of 19 which is fairly high, especially considering he's a fat guy with a mustache. His speed is also huge, too, which is cool. The other characters I think are hot have some of the lowest charms -- Tiberius is 14, Herman is 12, Wod is 13, and Boston is 9 lmao. Bai Meinyan has the lowest, at 8. (Charm is only used for seduction chance, so it's completely an 'attractiveness' factor.)
Nora is very powerful. The highest strength and skill in the game, plus the best making in axe and club level. She's also not bad at Byakko jutsu, though a weapon crown probably suits her well. She also has one of the higher HP makings, too. Overall she's very versatile and powerful when it comes to dealing damage. She also has one of the highest LP in the game, so she can take a lot of damage and deal a lot of damage.
Zhi Lin has great skill and bow making, so she's the most fantastic character with bow. Fairy is the fastest and has great foil making and skill, so it's great for foil stuff. 20 charm, too, which is good. I don't know if that affects stun rate, but if it does, that's great.
Elephant has huge endurance, huge HP growth, and 36 LP. Why does anything have that much LP?! Speed suffers a lot at 7, but in a way, sometimes it's good to be guaranteed to go last, or if you use fixed order formations, speed is irrelevant, so that can easily be overcome. Pretty decent strength and the highest martial arts making, and with martial arts having a healing art, this means Elephant is pretty amazing, too.
Herman has the highest Spirit, which is great, because it means he's the best at inflicting status effects... kind of. Because status effects are also often dependent on your proficiency (so like, shadow sew's effect rate is based on both your bow level and your spirit). Since Herman has 0 making in everything, he'll probably have lower levels in everything in general. But the extra points in Spirit may make up for it. Of course, if you turn him into Black, he'll get better makings. But I like him as Herman :P
I don't think I'll ever do eight whole playthroughs of RSG3 because the game just isn't different enough between all the characters. But I'd still probably end up doing half of them?
And there are 23 recruitable characters in the game. Though two of them are kinda... iffy. One only is really playable in one scenario and has some special conditions, and the other can only be recruited at the very end of the game, past a point of no return, so there's... no real point in recruiting them, since you won't really get to raise them or anything (which is sad because he'd be the final member of my fuzzyface harem team lol)
But I'd like to do themed teams with each playthrough, and I'm trying to come up with some different themes based on the available characters. You get your protag plus five additional characters for the party, though one character doesn't battle, so if you're not planning on using Commander Mode, you could really only worry about four additional characters.
The 'themes' that I definitely want to do are:
- Harem Party: As in Tiberius, Wod, Trucks, and Herman. The problem is I don't know what to do for a 5th. Originally I wanted to theme this as all fuzzy-faced characters, so I'd put Yan Fan in since he's the only other character with facial hair. But he's also the only-available-for-the-last-area character, so that's kinda stupid. Boston and Leonid are characters I have a crush on but I plan to use them in other theme already. So I don't know what to do about the 5th. I also am not sure who I'd want to use as the protag for this. I want it to be someone to kind of ship everyone with LOL so I kind of like the idea of Monica or Mikhail; Monica means I can't use Leonid, though, and Monica or Thomas seem good for the magic-only party, so maybe I'd go with Mikhail.
- Non-human Party: Boston, Snowman, Fairy, Elephant, and Leonid. Boston is a lobster; Leonid is a vampire. Vampires are kinda humany but not exactly, plus he has a unique gameplay mechanism so I think that qualifies him enough to be on this team. I don't know who would be a good protag for this, either. I've thought of Sara (since she reminds me a little of Claudia from RSG1 for some reason?), or maybe Katalina? I don't feel like anyone REALLY makes sense for this, though, lol.
- Mage Party: This can be literally anyone, but generally the characters who seem more magic-inclined would be better: Bai Meinyan, Fullbright, Muse, Tiberius, and Undine seem the most 'magey' of everyone, but you could use anyone really. Thomas or Monica would be the best protags as they're the most magic-inclined, I feel. I think Thomas even starts with some magic available? Anyway, I may even do a 'challenge run' type of thing where I only use jutsu and no weapons, or limit to only martial arts or something.
- Girls Party: Only female characters. Try to use the ones not from mage party, and avoid recruiting the other protags. Bai Meinyan, Muse, Nora, Tatyana, Undine, Zhi Lin. Of course, we'd still need to have some overlap with the mage party... But Nora and Zhi Lin would be a must. The protag I feel is best with Ellen or Katalina. Actually, if I did Katalina, I could recruit Ellen to add some variety.
The characters not utilized in any of those would be Black, Paul, Minstrel, Robin, Sharl, and Boy. That's only 6, and Boy is one of the iffy ones. So maybe the other five -- Black, Paul, Minstrel, Robin, Sharl... they could be a theme of annoying young guys. The protag would be Julian XD
Though I'd like to play with Harid once I think, so maybe a theme of money-seeking characters? Black and Paul would fit in there, being a pirate and a bandit. Minstrel I guess performs for money? But his main motivation seems artistry. Um, honestly no one else really fits this. Maybe Wod since he's kind of a mercenary lol. Undine and Leonid maybe make sense here, Leonid has a castle with lots of treasures, Undine fights over a treasure ... XD
But uh, thinking of the protags, I'd like to definitely do at least Mikhail, Harid, Sara, Monica, and Katalina. Ellen and Thomas share the same story with Sara pretty much, and Julian's is shared with Monica. But the five I listed have unique story elements, I think. Even though most of the game is still identical, it's just a little different in the intro, lol...
I could do the themes like this:
Mikhail - Harem (Tiberius, Trucks, Wod, Herman, Leonid)
Katalina - Girls (Nora, Zhi Lin, Tatyana, Ellen, Muse)
Monica - Mages (Tiberius, Thomas, Muse, Undine, Bai Meinyan)
Sara - Non-humans (Snowman, Fairy, Elephant, Boston, Boy)
Harid - Other (Black, Paul, Minstrel, Fullbright, Sharl)
Unused - Robin, Julian
Harid seems like he'd just let anyone tag along as long as they didn't get in his way, so maybe I could just throw everyone I didn't use into that run XD
Then maybe if I ever feel like playing again I could play another Sara and throw Boy, Julian, and Thomas in there, and pick up Yan Fan at the end just for the heck of it, so I'd have used everyone XD
Another idea is to use Boy with Sara and have it be Boy and Sara with a bunch of non-humans. That's kind of interesting, too. I'd kinda consider Boy and Sara to be like a dual-protag sort of thing XD Actually, I really like that idea. I'm going to move Leonid off that list and put Boy there. Then everyone has a generic name in that party except Boston hahaha.
Then other than the protags Julian and Thomas, and of course Yan Fan, I'd have used every character.
Also, here's some notes for myself on characters' growth rates in magic for the sake of the mage run:
Seiryu/Suzaku/Byakko/Genbu/Sun/Moon
Monica - 0/0/0/0/0/4
Tiberius - 1/1/1/1/2/0
Muse - 2/1/2/1/0/4
Undine - 0/0/0/5/0/2
Bai Meinyan - 3/1/1/1/0/0
Thomas - 0/0/1/1/3/0
OK, I said Fullbright but thinking about it now, I don't know why I feel like he's magey? He's not particularly magey compared to anyone else. Maybe I should go with Thomas? Since I'm not going to use him for his own run. Then I could put Fullbright with Harid (and Fullbright is definitely a money-based character because he's a businessman lol)
OK, I added Fullbright to Harid's team, and that's a pretty decent 'money-seekers' team, really. Pirate, Bandit, Performer, Businessman, and ... a poor kid from the slums LOL.
But now Robin is not being used anywhere...
I could swap him into the 'mage' party and have Thomas as the lead, but then I wouldn't have a playthrough with Monica... Though I could try to make the Monica playthrough the 'perfect' game... XD;;;;; I don't really feel like Robin fits in a mage party anyway, though. I think Fullbright fits better than Robin XD
Anyway, to make sure all the magic schools are covered:
Monica - Suzaku
Tiberius - Genbu
Muse - Byakko
Undine - Genbu
Bai Meinyan - Seiryu
Thomas - Suzaku?
Thomas has 0 making for Suzaku, but I'd like to have a "replacement" for Monica if she's the commander, so all four schools are still used even if she's not on the field. His makings in the four elemental schools are not that amazing anyway (Genbu and Byakko are just 1 lol), so he'll mainly be useful for his high Sun making, as he and Tiberius are the only ones that even have non-0 Sun Making...
Then for the light schools:
Sun - Tiberius, Thomas, Bai Meinyan
Moon - Monica, Undine, Muse
Even amount of each :P Bai is the only one who isn't really proficient in either sun or moon, so she'll probably just stick to a healing jutsu for emergency only or something.
Well, not that makings are really all that important in this game, but XD
Here's the Magic levels of each of the mage party members:
Monica - 16 *
Thomas - 20
Tiberius - 23
Muse - 19
Undine - 24
Bai Meinyan - 23
(Fullbright) - 19
* This is assuming giving her the star sign of the scholar and no initial weapon proficiency (which starts her with suzaku jutsu, too).
The fastest character will likely be Thomas at 18. Monica's speed with scholar/none is only 16.
Builds for Monica: Since the most important stat will be Magic, but then secondly Speed and Spirit are both important, there are a few different ways to "build" Monica if she's chosen as the initial character. Thomas as the protag can get insane magic level (I think up to 27), but Monica's base magic is very low (9) so even trying to max it out, you only end up with 18, which will still be the lowest in the party. The main reason Monica makes a great starting mage character, though, is that she is the only character who can actually get a jutsu crown reasonably, by choosing 'none' as her weapon proficiency.
To get a jutsu crown, your jutsu points must be more than 10x your waza points plus 45. The lowest WP Thomas can start with is 11, so he'd have to get JP of 155 without ever gaining WP throughout the game. I don't even think it's possible to get JP this high???
Monica is special in that she doesn't start with any base WP, so she simply has to get to 45JP to get a crown. Other weapon proficiencies are technically possible, since she'd start with 3WP, but then she'd have to get to 75JP before she ever got the crown.
Since Monica will be one of the weaker mages anyway, it might be better to focus on her other abilities. She has naturally very high Charm, and you can give her the highest charm in the game by going Royalty/None (or Royalty/Foil), which will give her 25 Charm.
Since she'll be using Moon jutsu, she will have access to the charm glare thingy, which is the best seduction ability in the game. So focusing on Charm may be a good idea.
Other stats to pay attention to are Speed, Endurance, and Spirit. If we can make Monica the fastest character in the party, we'll have more enemies we can beat in speed using a fixed-turn-order formation. The best we can get her speed is with Hunter/Foil, which will leave it at 22, two points above Thomas, and generally on the higher end of base stats.
Endurance is important for absorbing physical damage, and in fights where having a tank in front helps, it might be good to have a high-endurance character. Thomas has 19 which is not bad. We can get Monica's to 23 with Fighter/Martial.
Spirit will help avoid status effects, and there isn't a reason to focus on one character having a higher value than the rest of the party, but it's good to pay attention to, because you don't want it to be too low. Only Seiryu school has jutsu that can inflict status effect as far as I know? (Nap)
Anyway, looking at some possible combinations, here are what her starting stats would be. They'll be listed in the order Speed/Endurance/Magic/Spirit/Charm
Scholar+None - 16/13/18/19/24
Royalty+None - 14/15/16/19/25
Hunter+None - 18/14/17/17/24
Fighter+None - 15/17/15/19/23
Hunter+Foil - 22/15/15/15/24
Fighter+Martial - 18/23/10/17/20
The Fighter+Martial set does have nice Endurance, but Magic is dropped to low (10 lol) for an all-mage game.
Scholar+None gives the best Magic/Spirit/Charm set. The +1 in Charm from Royalty+None doesn't really seem worth the drop of 2 in Magic, though a +2 in Endurance isn't so bad.
Hunter+None seems pretty balanced with decent speed, but if the speed doesn't outrank Thomas, it's not particularly useful, so it's kind of a misleading balance. In the end, it's a 'just ok' all around build it seems.
Fighter+None seems sort of lackluster all around. You can get the same Spirit from other builds, but without all the sacrifices everywhere else. 17 Endurance really isn't all that amazing.
Hunter+Foil is intriguing -- you get 22 speed, so she'd be the fastest character, and Charm still stays very high at 24. Going fast and charming opponents seems great. 15 is mediocre for Magic, but if she focuses on support jutsu, it won't matter as much, and Suzaku+Moon does have quite a bit of support available. Being able to deliver fast support and the ability to charm quickly sounds nice.
The biggest problem is Hunter+Foil makes getting the jutsu crown a far late-game thing... And we'd have to be very careful never go gain a single WP. A crown is nice but big speed might be worth getting it later rather than sooner.
Suzaku jutsu are almost completely support, and we'll have other characters on Moon jutsu who are more offensive (including Undine, who has the highest Magic level in the party...), so having the higher speed and charm seems to be more useful than the higher magic level.
And just for fun, here's who has the best making for each category (not including HP since a lot of people share top):
Sword - Julian, Harid, Boy, Wod (3)
Axe/Club - Ellen, Nora (3)
Spear/Foil - Trucks, Fairy (4)
Bow - Zhi Lin (4)
Martial Arts - Elephant (4)
Seiryu - Harid, Boy, Bai Meinyan (3)
Suzaku - Sara (3)
Byakko - Sara, Muse, Yan Fan, Nora (2)
Genbu - Undine (5)
Sun - Mikhail (4)
Moon - Monica, Muse (3)
Interesting that the only making of 5 is Undine's Genbu rate. Which is good because she has a making of 0 in everything else (well, a 2 in Moon). Byakko doesn't really have anyone particularly good at it, with four people tied at just 2.
Nora is the only character that has the highest making in more than one category that can be held at the same time (Sara tops Suzaku and Byakko both, but you can't have jutsu from both schools at the same time.)
The highest in the static stats, with some notable mentions (basically anyone over 21):
Strength - Boy, Nora (23) - Wod (22)
Skill - Zhi Lin, Nora (24) - Fairy (22)
Speed - Fairy (25) - Katalina (23), Trucks (22)
Endurance - Elephant (26) - Snowman (24), Wod (23)
Magic - Leonid (25) - Undine (24), Tiberius, Yan Fan, Bai Meinyan (23)
Spirit - Herman, Black (24) - Snowman (23), Julian (22)
Charm - Leonid (27) - Muse (25), Monica (24), Minstrel (22)
The most overall stat points is Leonid with 135. Sharl with Silver Hand comes in second at 130. Harid, Monica, and Black are tied for third at 124.
I'm mildly offended that Monica has less Charm than Muse. Leonid having highest charm is amazing, though, and makes it even more fun for him to be in the harem party.
Notably, Trucks has a charm of 19 which is fairly high, especially considering he's a fat guy with a mustache. His speed is also huge, too, which is cool. The other characters I think are hot have some of the lowest charms -- Tiberius is 14, Herman is 12, Wod is 13, and Boston is 9 lmao. Bai Meinyan has the lowest, at 8. (Charm is only used for seduction chance, so it's completely an 'attractiveness' factor.)
Nora is very powerful. The highest strength and skill in the game, plus the best making in axe and club level. She's also not bad at Byakko jutsu, though a weapon crown probably suits her well. She also has one of the higher HP makings, too. Overall she's very versatile and powerful when it comes to dealing damage. She also has one of the highest LP in the game, so she can take a lot of damage and deal a lot of damage.
Zhi Lin has great skill and bow making, so she's the most fantastic character with bow. Fairy is the fastest and has great foil making and skill, so it's great for foil stuff. 20 charm, too, which is good. I don't know if that affects stun rate, but if it does, that's great.
Elephant has huge endurance, huge HP growth, and 36 LP. Why does anything have that much LP?! Speed suffers a lot at 7, but in a way, sometimes it's good to be guaranteed to go last, or if you use fixed order formations, speed is irrelevant, so that can easily be overcome. Pretty decent strength and the highest martial arts making, and with martial arts having a healing art, this means Elephant is pretty amazing, too.
Herman has the highest Spirit, which is great, because it means he's the best at inflicting status effects... kind of. Because status effects are also often dependent on your proficiency (so like, shadow sew's effect rate is based on both your bow level and your spirit). Since Herman has 0 making in everything, he'll probably have lower levels in everything in general. But the extra points in Spirit may make up for it. Of course, if you turn him into Black, he'll get better makings. But I like him as Herman :P
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